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Shaping the future with Dominic Vergine

What next? Leadership conversations for a better future
 

In this episode our Chief Strategy and Sustainability Officer, Marc Kahn, and Lindsay Hooper, CEO of Cambridge Institute for Sustainability Leadership, host Dominic Vergine, CEO and founder of Monumo. Together they discuss how AI can play a central role in advancing positive people and planet outcomes. However, the real impact of this technology depends not just on its capabilities but on how we decide to use it.
 

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Chapter notes

  • Chapter 1: Setting the scene – AI and leadership in a changing world (00:00 – 01:41)

    • AI as a defining force in business and policy - powerful but poorly understood.
    • Leadership challenge: cutting through hype to decide where AI genuinely advances value and sustainability.
  • Chapter 2: Targeted applications and real-world impact of AI (01:41 – 18:25)

    • Why the greatest breakthroughs will come from focused, domain-specific uses of AI rather than generic language tools.
    • Example: using AI to redesign electric motors and generators for major emissions cuts.
    • Energy and ethics: contrasting the high energy cost of large models with the efficiency gains from precision AI.
  • Chapter 3: AI, society, and the economy – risks, regulation, and opportunity (18:25 – 31:57)

    • How current AI business models are economically unsustainable and may collapse under their own energy costs.
    • Market disruption: why agile startups can outperform incumbents and why Asia is moving faster than Europe.
    • Jobs and just transition: parallels with past industrial revolutions and the need to manage displacement.
    • Policy levers: tax incentives and R&D support that steer AI toward productive, low-impact innovation.
  • Chapter 4: The future of AI – sustainability, education, and leadership 31:57 – 41:31)

    • How AI could help optimise competing sustainability goals by analysing complexity beyond human capability.
    • Re-imagining education for an AI age: teaching critical thinking, creativity, and ethical judgment over rote skills.
    • Leadership imperative: focus AI investment on solving material problems - energy, efficiency, design - rather than digital noise.
  • Key quote

    “It is the most powerful tool by some margin that humans have ever had. And we will use it badly, we will use it for good, and we will use it incompetently. The question is, where will the needle lie?” – Dominic Vergine

     

  • Key takeaways

    • AI’s true value lies in solving complex, high-impact problems  -  from engineering efficiency to medical breakthroughs  -  not in hype-driven chatbots or data scraping.
    • Leadership judgment matters more than speed. The impact of AI depends on disciplined choices that link innovation to real-world value and ethics.
    • Business models will evolve. Today’s energy-intensive, low-value uses are commercially unsustainable; economics will drive a shift toward targeted, high-value applications.
    • Policy incentives should be deployed to steer AI investment toward productive, sustainable innovation rather than speculation.
    • Education must evolve. With machines mastering information, human advantage will lie in critical thinking, creativity, and moral reasoning.

What next? Leadership conversations for a better future

Podcast series hosted by Marc Kahn, our Chief Strategy and Sustainability Officer, and Lindsay Hooper, CEO at the University of Cambridge Institute for Sustainability Leadership (CISL).

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Disclaimer:

The views in this podcast series are those of the contributors, and don’t necessarily represent those of CISL, the University of Cambridge, or Investec, and should not be taken as advice or a recommendation.

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