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What next? Leadership conversations for a better future is a podcast series hosted by Marc Kahn, our Chief Strategy and Sustainability Officer, and Lindsay Hooper, CEO at the University of Cambridge Institute for Sustainability Leadership (CISL). Along with critical thinkers, innovators and leaders from across the globe, they discuss how markets can truly serve people and the planet, asking tough questions, challenging old assumptions, and opening space for new perspectives and solutions.
Episode 1 | From heavy industry to clean growth
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In this episode Marc Kahn, our Chief Strategy and Sustainability Officer, Lindsay Hooper, CEO at CISL, and guests Faustine Delasalle, CEO of the Mission Possible Partnership, and Katie Fergusson, SVP, Studies and Development at Anglo-American explore what the future holds for heavy industry as the world rises to the challenge of transitioning to a clean energy economy.
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Episode 2 | AI shaping the future
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In this episode of podcast series, What Next? Dominic Vergine, CEO and founder of Monumo gives his take on how AI can play a central role in advancing positive people and planet outcomes. However, the real impact of this technology depends not just on its capabilities but on how we decide to use it.
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Episode 3 | Powering Africa's future
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In this episode of podcast series, What Next? Professor Carlos Lopes and investment leader Jasandra Nyker argue that whilst Africa’s energy transition is a climate necessaity, it must also drive innovation, job creation and African instutional investment must crowd in.
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Episode 4 | Bridging political fault-lines
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In this episode of podcast series, What Next? Gillian Tett and Prof. Bob Eccles explore how companies on the ground and how leaders can navigate an increasing polarised global geopolitical landscape, ESG backlash and how these tensions are reshaping climate policy, capital flows and markets.
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Episode 5 | Rewiring finance for a better future
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In this episode of podcast series, What Next? José Viñals, Dr Nina Seega and Sarah Kemmitt analyse why finance has struggled to back real-world transition at scale, and outline the shifts needed to connect capital to what should be a huge financing opportunity.
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Episode 6 | Changing minds, changing markets
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In this episode of podcast series, What Next? Michael Liebreich and Rory Sutherland lift the lid on how to shift behaviour at scale to achieve the energy transition. They also address the sociopolitical backlash we have seen in some sectors with regard to climate action.
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Episode 7 | Young divided and under pressure
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Is the idea that young people will “save the world", realistic or fair? Clover Hogan, climate activist and founder of Force of Nature and Ravi Naidoo, CEO of the Youth Employment Service (YES) in SA discuss how youth can find agency and meaningful work amid systemic barriers and concentrated power.
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Episode 8 | Who shapes the next economy?
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Thomas Lingard discusses the power shifts created by AI and digital systems and explores where the real opportunity is to ensure that emerging technologies are used in the best interest of humanity. Ligard founded Unilever’s Global Advocacy team to influence international public policy on sustainable development and now heads the Centre for Future Generations.
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Episode 9 | The value of values
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In this episode of podcast series, What Next? Alison Taylor and Karen Wood argue that coporate values are more strategic to build trust and therefore business resilience, than ever. They discuss the realities of trade-offs that leaders must navigate, and the fallacy that business must stay "out of politics".
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Episode 10 | The meaning deficit
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In this episode Sudhanshu Palsule, Gillian Secrett and Richard Springer answer the crucial question: why are so many people struggling to find meaning? And what can leaders do to facilitate collective action?
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Episode 11 | How philanthropy can fuel economic transformation
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Philanthropy funds much of the world’s high-risk innovation, early-stage ideas and new economic thinking, often long before markets or governments are able to act. But how can it move beyond individual projects to drive systemic change? In this episode of we speak with two leaders reshaping philanthropy, founder of the Bennett Foundation, Peter Bennett and Leslie Johnston, founding CEO of the Laudes Foundation.
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Episode 12 | Reclaiming the future from the algorithm
AI is rapidly reshaping economies, societies and power structures yet much of the conversation has swung between uncritical optimism and existential fear. In this episode, of What Next? Vilas Dhar, President of Patrick J. McGovern Foundation, and philanthropist, technologist and advocate for human-centred AI, discusses the Utopian promise offered by AI. Dhar looks at how balancing AI-driven corporate profits with human progress relies on overcoming social and political frictions, as well as mitigating the risk of holding conversations about our collective future in a vacuum that lacks wider engagement.
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Episode 13 | Making the transition investable
This episode of What Next? Helena Norrman, Marina Grossi, and Sang-Hyup Kim explains why transition policy now sits at the centre of industrial strategy, competitiveness and geopolitics. Across steel, green growth policy and Brazil’s business-led coalitions, they set out a practical playbook for leaders who want to move beyond isolated initiatives and accelerate delivery at scale.
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Episode 14 | Bridging the trust gap
In this episode of What Next?, Professor Mike Kenny, Head of Department at the Bennett School of Public Policy, University of Cambridge, and Jacinta Koolmatrie, an Aboriginal heritage practitioner, examine the growing distrust between communities and institutions, and discuss how sharing power and supporting locally led solutions can help rebuild trust.
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Investec Focus Radio SA has been recognised as the Best Content Marketing Programme in Financial Services at the international Content Marketing Awards 2025. It has also been awarded Best Business Podcast in Africa by Feedspot, while one of the channel's shows, The Current, was named Best Business Podcast at the South African Podcast Awards 2024.
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